Demerit System – How The “P” License Can Be Withdrawn
J.P.J. Demerit System
Malaysia has a high rate of accident. In order to minimise the above, drivers should be made conscious of road safety as well as to follow road rules and regulations.
Young or new drivers, that is the “P” drivers unfortunately, are unaware that their P License can rather easily be suspended or “withdrawn”. In fact, the “P” License is a Probationary License for 2 years. Drive carefully and safely or you might end up loosing it.
In this short article, I shall endeavour to explain the best possible manner you can prevent your P License getting Suspended.
This Demerit System involves around APJ Sections 35, 35A, 37 and 38. Drivers under the category of CDL (Competent Drivers’ License) and the “P” category beware!
Under its list, some 18 items of traffic offences are listed. Points ranging from 5 to 15 are given when you are summoned by the J.P.J / Police or the Courts. When Fines are paid, a system of Records is created at the Putrajaya JPJ Headquarters.
As this article solely deals with the problem of “P” License only, thus how it gets being suspended will be addressed.
First, avoid getting “hit” by APJ Section 41-43 (driving recklessly / dangerously / undue care) which carries 15 demerits points, which is Way Above the suspension limit of 10 demerit points. (You accumulate 10 points in 1 year). This will end your “P” License.
Secondly, avoid getting summoned also under Section 45B (4) or 45C (6) which brings 15 points too.
Thirdly, P drivers should also stay away from
a) not having “P” Stickers on the left hand corner and rear windscreen of your car.
b) beating the “red” traffic lights.
c) speeding over 40 km/h in designated areas (Section 40/96 APJ).
Remember, therefore getting summoned under Section 41-43 (15 points) and Sections 45B (4) and 45C(6) and Section 40/96 APJ ‘87 WILL END your “P” Lifespan.
Finally, remember too your “P” lasts 2 years. After this period, ensure you convert it into CDL (Competent Drivers License) within 1 year period.
The procedure is simple!
Supply:
i) 1 colour photo
ii) Photostat copy MyKad (both sides)
iii) Original P License
iv) RM30 per year. Maximum 10 years.
You can only do the above at any J.P.J office. Contact your driving school instructor / institute should you face any difficulties.
Hope you will be able to prevent your “P” License from being suspended.
By the way, if your P should ever be suspended, you are not allowed to Drive during the suspension period nor are you allowed to apply for any form of License (of any class) from the time your license is suspended.
One good news to you anyway! A person whose P license is suspended will have to resit the “Practical” aspect (slope, side parking, 3 point turn) and the “Road Test” all over again.
However, you can be exempted from resitting the Highway Code test. You have first to apply for permission from the Pengarah J.P.J. in Putrajaya.
If you feel all this is a hassle, just sit for the undang-undang test (Highway Code Test) all over again.
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Hi sir, i would love to seek for an answer.
I am still under the P period and i had speeding summon under S79(2) APJ 1987 PANDU LAJU.
Will my license be suspended?
How many demerit points is it account to?
Thank you in advance.
Dear Reila,
Depends on how fast you were speeding.
i) Over 40 km/j – 10 pts
ii) 26 – 39 km/j – 8 pts
iii) 1 – 25 km/j – 6pts
Suspension of license is up to J.P.J. in Putrajaya.
‘Cikgu Yap
oh… i see..
thank you so much
i was so scared when i received the summon letter.
thankfully i was over by 17km/j
thanks for replying =P
hi Sir,
my license still uder P period.
i ditahan oleh jpj pada 18/11/2009. i ask to the officer ,if my license will suspended? but she said
“TIDAK, tetapi saya akan di KOMPAUN ATAS KESALAHAN TIDAK MEMPAMERKAN P..
My P licensed will end on 18/12/2009. I ‘m very worried about this. can you give any suggestions, what should i do? Should I still go to the JPJ office to convert my P license to CDL? I already check for JPJ’s blacklist as well as kejara oline, but the system was not updated,mean I do not have any record yet.
Thank you for any advise.
Dear Sue,
Your “P” can only be changed to C.D.L. only after 18/12/09.
Hold on to your compound until 18/12/09. Then quickly take out your C.D.L. license.
After that, do settle your compound summons.
‘Cikgu Yap
I got stopped by a JPJ officer today. (04/12/09)
For an expired P license.
My P drivers license expires on 29/11/09
He said that my licence may be suspended as I am driving around with an expired P. Is this valid as you said above that I have 1 year to change to a CDL after the P expires.
Dear Hahn,
Sorry, it looks as if you have misunderstood statement. You cannot drive with expired “P”!
1 year duration is for you to convert the “P” to C.D.L. (passed license).
‘Cikgu Yap
I was summoned for running a red light on 11/12/2009 and my P license will expire on 07/01/2010. I read that I have a 30-day period to settle my summons. Problem is I don’t mind paying, I’m just scared that I will lose my Lesen P (10 point deduction right? It’s my first offence) once i settle it. Should I simply convert to CDL ahead of expiry before I pay my summons? Is that possible (cuz I’ve a long time still)?
Thank you!
Dear Zac,
You can only convert your “P” on 7/1/2010. After that, settle your summons.
Whether any action by JPJ, Putrajaya will be decided by the authorities.
‘Cikgu Yap
Im a P license holder and it is expiring on 19/2/2010. I was involved in an accident earlier and a police report has been made. My question is will the police officers revoke my P license if im at fault for the accident?
Thanks.
Dear Mic,
Depends on what type of accident you’re involved in. Have you been summoned for the accident?
Revoking a person’s license is the duty of J.P.J. in Putrajaya.
Personally, I feel you should not be unduly worried. Wait for Putrajaya’s advice.
‘Cikgu Yap
Hi my P licence expired on october 08 but as i was studying overseas therefore i couldn’t renew it till now im back for 2weeks and its been 1yr and 2months. what should I do?
Dear Michelle,
You will now have to contact J.P.J. Headquarters in Putrajaya. The authorities will then advise you what steps to take next.
Probably, you will have to re-sit certain parts of your practical test.
‘Cikgu Yap
Hi if i got the L licence of motorcycle , may i drive my motorcycle on the road?
Dear Ang,
Yes you can. Affix the “L” in front and back.
Safe riding!
‘Cikgu Yap
But my teacher say cannot it is because the L licence , only can be use by learning with teacher , is it true?
Dear Ang,
“L” license for motorcycles permits a student to ride on his own. Only a car needs a driving instructor beside him.
Your instructor has given you wrong advice.
‘Cikgu Yap
Sir,
My daughter’s “P” driving licence is expired on the 29 dec 2009. But she is in United Kingdom to further her study now. can I do the renewal for her to obtain the CDL licence?
I understand that to convert P licence to CDL licence, I have to do it in JPJ and not in post office. What do I need to bring? Do I need to show prove that she is in UK? what kind of prove?
Dear ChongKY,
To get your daughter’s CDL, yes you can renew it on her behalf. Do it at J.P.J. office only. You’ll need:
i) 1 piece colour photograph.
ii) Mykad photostat.
iii) The “P” license (original).
You can also engage a runner to do the CDL for your daughter. CDL is RM30 per year. You can do it for 5 years (RM150).
‘Cikgu Yap
Dear Sir,
Can you tell me about the demerit point system and what are the offences that increases the points?
Dear Chuen,
A good question. Looks as if I have forgotten to write an article to explain about this system. As such, please be patient a little longer. I will write an article on it very soon.
Dear Sir, I’m having trouble to renew my P driving licence. My licence expires 3/02/2010 and I’m coming home on the exact same day. Is it possible to renew it a day late and how long is it to consider an acceptable duration. thanks
Dear nic,
Date of your renewal to “P” is still a long way of. A few days late in renewing your “P” does not matter.
thank you.
hi, sir.
my P license will expire on 19/03/2010. I was summoned for running a red light + failed to provide license (that time i forgot to bring my wallet out, all my id is inside) (that time it was yellow light, & i already beyond the stop line, i cant reverse, the car behind is too close with me, and i cant just stop at the middle, it will block other people. so i go on, but police stop me.) and if i paid my summon, i will get 15point!!!!!!!
i cant loose my P license, i need it to drove to college to study. (if JPJ batal my license, i cant drive to study, and it will “jejas my study process!!!!)
i dont want to be like that!!!
can i do “rayuan” so that i can use my license to drive to school to study !? can sir help me with this. (that time i was no choice that i have to go on the red light. I WAS NO CHOICE!!!) PLEASE HELP.
Thank you!
Dear agent48.
I am uncertain as to whether you’ve been given 1 or 2 summons. If you had reliased earlier that your license is important to you, you wouldn’t have driven the way you did.
In future, when seeing a yellow light, you should slow down and get ready to stop.
The only advice I that can be given to you is hold on to your summons till 19/3/2010. Then convert your P to C.D.L. Then go to settle your summons after that.
i worried it will effect my roadtax, so i will go to pay it within a few day from now (around 9/2/10 to 12/2/10)after paid,it will be a kejara record that will effect me, can i made a rayuan..??
Dear agent48,
Your running a traffic light will not in any way effect your changing of your car road tax. So go ahead and get your road tax.
dear cikgu yap,
the summon i get is 2 offences in one summon paper (i go to myeg.com to check, the saman is in the PDRM site, but nothing at the JPJ site). so it’s mean no problem to renew my road tax ???
one more thing,
inside the summon paper, got a line of word that wrote “KAMU ADALAH DENGAN INI DIPERINTAHKAN supaya hadir sendiri atau melalui penguam di hadapan makamah majistret di ………. ” what that’s mean???
mine got write something. it say’s i have “to appear in person or by counsel before magisttrate court at [ this part i cant read what he's wrote ] on 3/3/10, time [ cant read what he's wrote also ] “. I dont konw what the police wrote, [ his writing is very bad, i cant understand what he's wrote ].
sir (cikgu yap) say i should wait till 2010, then only pay my summon. But what if i dint go to court??? or pay……. will i get black listed??? will police come to arrest me!? 1st time got summon, im worried, so im asking many quwstion, sorry. (mine 1 is PDRM summon).
Dear agent48,
You have been given 2 summons.
a) Beating traffic lights.
b) No possessing license.
Try appealing for lower fines at PRDM. You might get a lower amount. Most PDRM summons are compound summons payable ideally within 1 month.
Should you fail to settle the above summons within 1 month, then you have to appear in court. My advise is, pay up the summons as soon as possible.
Don’t worry, the Police will not come to arrest you. Pay the summons as I have advised.
oh no !! i have made a big mistake on my post!!!! the stated date of my P license expired date is not on year 2010, but is on 2011 march 19. please be inform. & sorry. thanks
hi sir..my situation is totallly different..someone hit my car last year and the police say its my fault..there were no casualties or injuries..jz a scratch on his car..we both filed a police report which was the biggest mistake of my life..i was given summon for carelessness..i din pay up my fine n din show up in court..i received a letter sayin a warrent for arrest has been issued..my “P”license ends in 12/6/2010.. what do i do?if i hold it out for another 4 months till i get my C.D.L will anything happen?can i hold out for 4 months?
Dear Jay,
A warrant of arrest as you say has been issued against you. You have to quickly settle the earlier summons. You have no other choice.
Your “P” maturity is 4 months away and you are advised not to wait too long.
can i still take my C.D.L is i dont pay my summons?
Means your saying that im gona lose my license?
Dear Jay,
Warrant of arrest has nothing to do with you losing your license. Whether you can take out your CDL by 12/6/2010 depends on whether J.P.J. Putrajaya takes action on you under the Demerit System.
does d warrant of arrest and summons have a different charge?if i pay up my summons woulndt they record it into the J.P.J system?from what i know if i pay up the summons it will be recorded into the system and my license will be revoked. Is that true?if i don’t pay it means it still hasn’t been recorded into the system. Sorry if i ask too many question. One more thing i would like to ask is about the warrant of arrest. I’m living in J.B, the warrant of arrest does it come from J.B itself or bukit aman?
Warrant of arrest is issued as you have not paid up your summons within the time stipulated. Whether J.P.J. Putrajaya decides to take action on your or otherwise depend on them entirely.
As your offence seems rather trivial, I feel consideration will be accorded to you. In my personal opinion, I doubt very much if you license will be revoked.
Hi there,
I was wondering how long does it takes to get my C license?
Is it going to be processed on the spot or have to wait for a few weeks?
My P license expired on 3rd of Aug 2010.
Thanks a lot!
You must be referring to your CDL. Go personally to JPJ office. It can be processed on the spot.