If prior to the pre-Merdeka days, we used to follow the British style when providing driving tuition to potential drivers. Today, the [tag-tec]driving school[/tag-tec] industry and its “curriculum” tend to follow the Australian method.

The “Defensive Driving” or “Panduan Berhemat” in reality is an Australian concept of driving. It has proven to be an effective method in curbing accidents, especially in its country of origin.

Amongst the many rules and regulations of defensive driving is the use of the “P” stickers. But Malaysian “P” drivers are actually a lucky lot compared to Australian ones.

Australian “P” drivers, amongst other things are not allowed to:

i) Drive alone – During the probation period (2 years). They must be an experienced driver beside them.

ii) Drive at night.

iii) Must undergo another practical test after 1 year to ascertain their capability to drive.

iv) The necessity to stick “P” stickers in front and at the rear remains.

“P” probation period is 2 years. Newly “passed” drivers for Class B2 (Motorcycle) and D (Cars) have to have the “P” emblem displayed in front and at the rear of their vehicles.

Failure to do so might result in the authorities giving you a “Summon”. Getting such a summon is getting 10 Demerit Points, resulting in your license being suspended.

What is the colour of the “P” Sticker, one may ask. Car “P” stickers are slightly larger compared to motorcycle “P” stickers, where are smaller. Use the correct sized stickers or you will end up in trouble with the authorities. “P” stickers have the alphabet “P” in White with a Red background.

What must “P” drivers do during the 2 years probationary period?

a) Maintain a 0.00 alcohol content in their blood / urine / breath.

b) Have their “P” license along while driving.

c) Ensure “P” plates / sticker are affixed in front and at the rear of their vehicle.

What happens if your car has only 1 “P” sticker and you are unlucky to be stopped by the Police , J.P.J. or other authorities?

Well, its still an Offense. Believe me. I know because a “P” student of mine got a summon for it. He failed to realize the rear “P” of his vehicle had dropped off. The maxim seem to be – “Ignorance Is No Excuse”.

Use the “P” sticker till your probationary period is over (2 years). Then convert your “P” license into C.D.L. (Competent Drivers’ License) within 1 year.

Some students ask: “What happens if I’m using a motorcycle “P” for 6 months and then I get a car license?” Well, you will have put the “P” on for another 1 1/2 years (18 months).

What happens if a person has been using a “P” license for motorcycle for already 2 years and then get a D or car license? In this case, you need not drive a car with a “P”. Your “P” days are over.

There are some who find it difficult to get the “P” stickers. Actually, you can get them from:

i) Motorcycle shops.

ii) Spare parts shops.

iii) Bookshops even;

iv) From your Instructor himself.

v) From van selling “Driving School” material which comes on Test day.

And I might even chip in to help you. Click on the Contact the Author link above. Seeing you getting your “P” is better than seeing you get into trouble with the law.

To those of you who wish to know how to change your “P” license to C.D.L. (Competent Drivers’ License), the things required are:

i) Bring your MyKad.

ii) Supply 1 colour photo.

iii) Bring your “P” original license.

iv) 1 year renewal (RM30). Renewal can be made for up to 5 years.

v) Go to the nearest J.P.J. office to do the above.

vi) Your “P” license Cannot be done at the Post Office nor the MyEg agency.

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  1. P Driver July 31, 2009 at 2:48 am - Reply

    VERY useful information. Can’t say the same for the JPJ site – spent more than a good hour navigating through each link, tab & button to figure out how one goes from PDL to CDL! Thanks very much, i’ll try their office in PJ!

  2. Audrey August 19, 2009 at 12:05 pm - Reply

    found this site while trying to figure out where I’m supposed to place my P stickers – upper left corner on the front and back windscreens?

    Am impressed by this blog – really informative and much more helpful than ‘official’ sources :-)

    Also, very impressive effort by ‘the son’! Hats off to you, and to your dad!

    • admin August 21, 2009 at 4:26 pm - Reply

      Dear Audrey,

      Thank you for your positive comment.

      As for your question, the “P” stickers are to be affixed on the “Left” hand corner of the front windscreen and rear windscreen also “Left” hand corner.

      By putting the “P” stickers on the top left position, it will not “block” the driver’s view.

      ‘Cikgu Yap

  3. Zen August 26, 2009 at 9:24 am - Reply

    Dear Cikgu Yap,

    I find your blog very helpful.
    I’m a foreigner. During the time that studying in Malaysia, I got my “P” driving licence and it’s going to be expired by 5/11/09. Currently, I’m staying in Australia. I want to ask if it’s possible to ask my Malaysian friend help me convert my “p” licence to “C” licence ? What documents are needed in my case? And can I have the “C” licence on the same day I go to convert it.
    Thank you for your great work!


    • admin August 27, 2009 at 3:47 am - Reply

      Dear Zen,

      Your “P” can be converted by either a friend, a runner or by a driving school.

      The documents required are:

      1) 1 copy of colour photograph.

      2) 1 copy of identity card or passport.

      3) The original “P”.

      4) Payment of RM30 for 1 year renewal. Payment can be made for maximum of 5 year (RM150).

      And Yes, your C.D.L. (passed license) can be ready in 1 day if you go personally.

      ‘Cikgu Yap

  4. jason tang September 6, 2009 at 12:42 pm - Reply

    Dear cikgu yap

    Currently i am studying at Singapore and my “p” is going to expired on the 18 oct 2009. my question is what is the earliest and latest date i can change to “c”?

    Is it possible i can change my licence at johor jpj since i am from sarawak.


    • admin September 7, 2009 at 4:38 pm - Reply

      Dear Jason Tang,

      The earliest date you can change your “P” license to a C.D.L. (Competent Driver’s License) is 18 Oct 2009. The latest is 1 year later which is 17 Oct 2010.

      Yes, you can change your license at Johor JPJ office.

      ‘Cikgu Yap

      • Jess June 13, 2014 at 4:30 pm - Reply

        This awesome information. My P expires today and I was googling how soon/late i can upgrade to CDL as weekends JPJ office not open and next week I can’t take any more leave because I’ll be going outstion till following Tuesday. Was worried will kena saman if i renew late.

        Question: Do I need to leave the P sticker on my car until I upgrade?

      • Ivan LJY June 22, 2014 at 11:31 pm - Reply

        How Long will it take to change the license from “P” to C.D.L? when will i be able to collect my C.D.L ? and what will the documents needed?

        Thanks in advance!

        • Cikgu Yap June 29, 2014 at 5:30 pm - Reply

          It varies person to person. Normally it takes half a day if you do it on your own. Do read my other articles on ‘changing’ licences.


  5. Lyn September 10, 2009 at 3:10 am - Reply

    Dear Cikgu Yap, if I lost my P license, how am I going to change it to a CDL license?

    • admin September 10, 2009 at 3:00 pm - Reply

      Dear Lyn,

      Firstly, get a new “P”. Then only apply for the C.D.L. (Competent Driver’s License).

      ‘Cikgu Yap

  6. San September 29, 2009 at 9:05 pm - Reply

    I’ve already lost my P licence, and the P already expired, what should I do?
    How to apply for new P, and how much would it cost?

    • admin October 1, 2009 at 10:01 pm - Reply

      Dear San,

      Firstly, get a new “P”. No Police report needed.

      “P” can be done at J.P.J. branches. Go yourself to J.P.J. office if possible. “Runner” or driving schools might face some problems.

      Bring along 1 coloured photo and your original MyKad.

      ‘Cikgu Yap

  7. Kumar December 11, 2009 at 11:52 am - Reply

    Hi This this site is very much help ful, I am expat, I have P driving license and it is going to expire next month.

    Do I need clear summons if I have any before applying for CDL?, will it be a problem If I go for CDL without clearing summons?
    How can I check that?


    • Cikgu Yap March 16, 2010 at 1:41 pm - Reply

      As a foreigner in this country, you are advised to follow the rules and regulation strictly.

      Preferably, settle all your summons prior to getting your C.D.L.

      To check summons, ensure which authority made the summons – the J.P.J., Police of Town Council.

  8. Geneve January 21, 2010 at 11:27 am - Reply

    How to “rayu” License “p” online? I was studied at oversea for 3 years.

    • Cikgu Yap January 21, 2010 at 10:47 pm - Reply

      Dear Geneve,

      Please read the article How To Reinstate A Malaysian “P” Or C.D.L. License posted on 29th July 2009.

      Among proof o studying overseas include:
      a) Airplane tickets
      b) College registration particulars.
      c) Certificate / degree.

      Bring the above to see the officials at J.P.J. Putrajaya. Hopefully you could get your “P” reinstated.

  9. Darren January 22, 2010 at 2:39 pm - Reply

    Can i use my currenlty P license photo to renew? Can they cut out my P license photo to replace my new license?

    • Cikgu Yap January 28, 2010 at 12:24 am - Reply

      Dear Darren,

      The answer to your question is “No”.

  10. William January 24, 2010 at 3:32 pm - Reply

    hi got a question here ,im local , do i against the rule when im driving with an expires 4 months P license ? the police just had fined me during a road block just now .

    • Cikgu Yap January 28, 2010 at 12:21 am - Reply

      Dear William,

      Yes, you have broke the law.

  11. Maryam January 24, 2010 at 7:54 pm - Reply


    just a quick question, what do i need to bring to the jpj office to apply for a P license, and how much does it cost? thanks in advance..

    • Cikgu Yap January 28, 2010 at 12:23 am - Reply

      Dear Maryam,

      For “P”, RM30 (1 year). Max is RM150 (5 years). Bring along photostat of your MyKad, and also 1 colour photograph.

  12. John February 1, 2010 at 8:27 pm - Reply

    If I want to change my “P” to C.D.L., do I need to fill up a form first or I can just go to the JPJ counter and asked for the change? Thanks in advance.

    • Cikgu Yap February 2, 2010 at 8:32 pm - Reply

      Dear John,

      Go to J.P.J. office. You will be given a Form (JPJ Borang 1). Do bring your MyKad, colour photo and original “P” along too.

  13. Jenny February 5, 2010 at 3:34 pm - Reply

    i’m currently studying overseas. but my “P” license is going to expire at the end of this month. Can my family members help me to convert my license to a CDL?? What documentation they need from me??

    Thank you

    • Cikgu Yap February 7, 2010 at 4:32 pm - Reply

      Dear Jenny,

      You family members can help you get your C.D.L. Supply the following item:
      a) Fotocopy of your MyKad
      b) Original P
      c) 1 colour photo
      d) Payment RM30 per year. Maximum RM150 (5 years)

  14. Adeline February 12, 2010 at 10:27 pm - Reply

    Cikgu Yap,

    I wold like to know how can i renew my license oversea. Because im in the UK at the moment. Thank you. =)

  15. Jay February 16, 2010 at 8:43 pm - Reply

    I heard that it’s possible for driving schools to handle conversion of P license to CDL. My P lisence will be expiring within a week, can i go to any driving school and let them handle this for me?

    • Cikgu Yap February 17, 2010 at 2:25 pm - Reply

      You’re correct. But make sure you get a reliable driving school operator.

  16. Deric February 17, 2010 at 10:11 am - Reply

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but if I already finished my ‘P’ license a long time ago for car, and now I plan to take a motorcycle license, I don’t need to be on ‘P’ anymore? :)

    • Cikgu Yap February 17, 2010 at 2:24 pm - Reply

      Yes, you’re right. No “P” needed.

  17. Jamie February 20, 2010 at 11:15 pm - Reply

    Hmm… Useful information. I just passed my driving license recently (January to be exact), so my P license duration is from 1/2010 to 1/2012. Do I have to wait till it expire before I can convert it into an Australian one? How do I convert it? It sucks for not being able to drive in Australia…my P is a Malaysian P and I’m now studying in Australia

    • Cikgu Yap February 24, 2010 at 11:55 pm - Reply

      Not all countries accept our license for conversion. To my knowledge, Australia and England are 2 of the countries that do not accept conversions.
      As for your “P” license, I doubt very much if you can be allowed to drive in Australia. The “P” system in Australia differs from Malaysia.

  18. jen February 22, 2010 at 10:48 pm - Reply

    about the expiry date of my P license.Do I have to change it on exactly the expiry date or before the expiry date or after it?For example if my expiry date is 1 Jan 2011,then which is the most suitable date for me to change?before or after?

    • Cikgu Yap February 24, 2010 at 11:53 pm - Reply

      You can change it into CDL due date. In your case, it is 1st Jan 2011.

      • jen February 25, 2010 at 2:46 pm - Reply

        can I change before that date?

        • Cikgu Yap February 26, 2010 at 9:48 am - Reply

          No Jen, you can’t.

          • jen March 1, 2010 at 10:17 pm

            What about after it?

  19. CL March 1, 2010 at 12:50 am - Reply

    ive been studying overseas for 3 years and now im going back to m’sia

    however ive lost my P license, and could not convert it to CDL…

    do i need to resit the whole driving test to obtain my ‘P’?

    • Cikgu Yap March 2, 2010 at 7:35 pm - Reply

      You could approach J.P.J. in Putrajaya to seek their advice. Cite your studying oversea for not renewing your “P” into C.D.L. Hopefully the authorities will listen to your explanation.

  20. nuramadana March 1, 2010 at 2:16 pm - Reply

    dear Mr Yap,
    i was just wondering what i should do because i just lost my P license and im going back to Malaysia this May and i wanted to change my P to CDL. is there anyway i can still get my CDL without my P drivers license?

    • Cikgu Yap March 2, 2010 at 7:36 pm - Reply

      First of all, is your”P” expired more than a year? If it isn’t, you could still convert it to C.D.L.

  21. nuramadana March 3, 2010 at 6:36 am - Reply

    my P expired on 2/1/2010
    i only have a photocopy of my P. can i still convert it to C.D.L even if I have lost my original P?

    • Cikgu Yap March 3, 2010 at 4:49 pm - Reply

      Your “P” can be used still. You have to get a duplicate “P” first. Then only can your “P” be converted to C.D.L.

  22. Joshua J S March 26, 2010 at 10:46 pm - Reply

    Cikgu Yap, I recently got my P license but just needed to ask; is there a penalty for putting the sticker in the wrong place? ie; bottom left instead of top or even on the right hand side?

    • Cikgu Yap March 28, 2010 at 11:57 am - Reply

      Don’t worry, no penalty is imposed.

  23. Zoe March 29, 2010 at 7:04 pm - Reply

    Cikgu Yap, I am staying in Australia since 2005 and my driving licence expired on Oct 2007. Can I still renew my licence or do I need to take another driving test? If I can renew my licence online, which category should I select in the COLLECTION METHOD column? Thank you.

    • Cikgu Yap March 30, 2010 at 7:51 pm - Reply

      The cut off time before your expired license becomes null and void is 3 years. Please read the following article ==> Malaysian CDL License Expired For More Than 3 Years

      You only have a few months to go. Go to MyEG web site to renew your license. Get them to send your renewed license your family or friend’s address in Malaysia. You can then ask them to courier the license to you in Australia.

      Alternatively, talk to the people in MyEG and check if they can send it oversea.

  24. Ravi March 29, 2010 at 11:57 pm - Reply

    Hi. I am from India..studying in malaysia… i have indian driving license for bike nd car…. now i wanna buy a bike here,,, i wann apply for CDL… as i m experienced enuf,,can i diectly apply for CDL??…if so wat is the procedure nd pls tell me the cost nd wer to apply…I got the indian driving license in 2006 October….

    Thanks a lot

    • Cikgu Yap March 30, 2010 at 10:42 pm - Reply

      Indian license D & B should be accepted for conversion to Malaysian C.D.L. Most J.P.J. offices have counters for such conversion.

      If you go personally, the normal cost are:
      RM30 – 1 years.
      RM60 – 2 years.
      RM90 – 3 years.

  25. leefong April 3, 2010 at 5:18 am - Reply

    hi,I am currently in Uk, and I was wondering what to do because i’ve lost my license yesterday.Can cikgu help me~:(

    • Cikgu Yap April 3, 2010 at 11:53 pm - Reply

      Try sending a fotocopy of your MyKad to your family back home. Supply 1 copy of coloured photo of yourself. Ask a family to go to J.P.J. to get a copy of your license. If no family can help, get the service of a runner or driving school. The cost for lost license is RM20.

  26. Lawrence Ling April 6, 2010 at 3:17 pm - Reply

    Hi Yap,

    I’m from Sarawak but living in Singapore for 3 years+ already..I’m thinking of getting a Car License.Can I do it at Johor? And how long does the course takes?
    And after getting the license do i need to do any conversion to be able to drive in Singapore?


    • Cikgu Yap April 6, 2010 at 10:01 pm - Reply

      Yes, you can do it in Johor. The entire course should take approximately more than 35 days. Malaysian license can be used in Singapore. However, don’t forget “P” is a probationary license. It’s up to the Singapore authorities to accept it or otherwise.

      • Lawrence Ling April 22, 2010 at 3:22 pm - Reply

        Hi Yap,

        Do you have any contacts/website/e-mail of driving school from Johor? Really appreciate if you could help me on this.

        • Cikgu Yap April 22, 2010 at 9:21 pm - Reply

          Sorry, unable to assist. Try finding local driving school

  27. Sim April 20, 2010 at 3:07 pm - Reply

    HI there, i m sarawakian, i come to west malaysia for further study, and my P license has expired. How long can is the expiration permitted? Is it a year in my case?

    • Cikgu Yap April 21, 2010 at 12:00 am - Reply

      “P” should not expire more than 1 year. Change it as soon as possible.

  28. Alvin April 22, 2010 at 11:36 pm - Reply

    Dear Cikgu Yap, my P licence is from 4/08 – 23/04/2010. So i should renew on the 23rd? or the 24th?

    And the documents that you stated such as coloured photo, does it have to be with the passport photo specification?

    • Cikgu Yap April 23, 2010 at 9:49 pm - Reply

      23rd or 24th, the choice is yours.

  29. nuramadana April 25, 2010 at 9:46 am - Reply

    hello again

    since i lost my original P license and only have a photocopy of it and i want to change my P to CDL, what should i do and where do i go to do this? is it going to be a problem since i only have a photocopy of my P?

    • Cikgu Yap April 27, 2010 at 8:18 am - Reply

      Photostat copy can’t be used. Get a “salinan” “P”. Then apply for new C.D.L.

  30. Graham Bennett May 11, 2010 at 5:51 pm - Reply

    I am currently translating a PDL into English. At the end it says L.PERCUBAAN. I know percubaan is test but what is the L. short for? Abbrieviations are a nighmare for a non-native speaker!

    • Cikgu Yap May 12, 2010 at 9:38 am - Reply

      You have done well in your translation. “L” simply means “License”.

  31. Siraj May 12, 2010 at 9:54 am - Reply

    Hello MR Yap , my P license is expiring on the 27th of this month , i would like convert it into international driving license , may i know what is the procedure ? and do i need to go for any test for it??/?

    • Cikgu Yap May 13, 2010 at 10:12 am - Reply

      Below are procedures you have to follow:
      1) Bring along original domestic license.
      2) One copy fotocopy of above (valid for at least a year)
      3) Original MyKad and fotocopy
      4) 2 pcs colour photo (passport size)
      5) Fill in form JPJ1
      6) Payment – 1 year (RM150)

      I.D.L. can be obtained from all state J.P.J. office. Also obtainable from A.A.M office too.

  32. Rain May 20, 2010 at 12:38 pm - Reply


    How much does it cost to make P license. As stated by my agency, it is RM80 for 2 years.

    Can I apply it myself and get a cheaper price?
    If yes, how do I do this?

    • Cikgu Yap May 22, 2010 at 4:31 am - Reply

      Government fee for 2 years P cost RM60. Middle men ask for expenses, do not forget that.

      Go to any state JPJ office to do your P.

  33. Vincent Yap May 22, 2010 at 9:34 am - Reply

    Dear Sir:

    I am going to study in UK soon~ Am I able to drive in UK by holding my Malaysian licence?

    • Cikgu Yap May 24, 2010 at 10:05 am - Reply

      Yes. Malaysian CDL license can be used in the UK.

  34. Nandini May 25, 2010 at 12:03 am - Reply

    Hey, is there any way of renewing my P license online? It says my lesen tidak wujud? Please advise, thanks heaps!

    • Cikgu Yap May 26, 2010 at 6:39 am - Reply

      “P” can only be changed at JPJ office. Not at post office or the MyEG centres.

  35. Gary July 6, 2010 at 9:57 pm - Reply

    Will the JPJ issue a duplicate license during the conversion period? And how long does the process of renewal take?

    • Cikgu Yap July 7, 2010 at 2:44 pm - Reply

      P conversion takes only 1 day. No duplicate is issued.

  36. mydi_1202 August 24, 2010 at 10:48 am - Reply

    Hi….I’m a singaporean…n studying in Malaysia for most than 10 years…my question is…I’m holding a Malaysia License n own a Malaysia car…can I drive the car to Singapore?

    • Cikgu Yap August 26, 2010 at 8:47 pm - Reply

      The answer to all your question is Yes, you can use your Malaysian registered car in Singapore.

  37. Steph September 17, 2010 at 10:29 am - Reply

    I’m a malaysian international student currently in Australia and my bag was stolen recently along with my Malaysian P license. How do I apply for a new one from here? Should I contact the embassy/consulate? Can I do it from Australia or will I have to do this in person back in Malaysia? Please and thanks!

    • Cikgu Yap September 21, 2010 at 9:15 pm - Reply

      Regret you have not been careful regarding the safety of your driving license. Your duplicate driving license can only be done back in Malaysia and no where else. Try supplying a photostat copy of your Mykad, colour photos and try getting a friend or relative to get the duplicate license. Then send it by post to you overseas.

  38. Steve February 1, 2011 at 9:30 pm - Reply

    Hi Cikgu Yap,

    I’ve lost my original driving license (the one that is expired with the photo) but I still have the small laminated paper thing that says my license is valid till 2012. How do I go about replacing my original license?

    Many thanks

    • Cikgu Yap February 7, 2011 at 4:53 pm - Reply

      No police report needed. Just go to any JPJ branch. Bring along your MyKad and 1 colour photo.

  39. jk February 14, 2011 at 11:14 pm - Reply

    My son collected his L licence from the driving school.Before he could start his driving lessons, he lost the L licence.Pls advise what to do in his case.Is a police report necessary?

    • Cikgu Yap February 18, 2011 at 7:20 pm - Reply

      No police report needed. Get your driving school’s help to get a duplicate copy. It should not be a hassle.

  40. Ibrahim February 22, 2011 at 1:19 pm - Reply

    Hi Dear Cikgu Yap,

    thanks for the info, it really helps. but I would like to ask:

    I’m an expat (foreigner) studying in KL, Malaysia, I got P license two years ago, my P license will expire on April, 2011. I got summoned by the JPJ for not having ‘P’ sticker in front and at the back of my car. I don’t own that car, it was my friends’ car and I was picking up a new student from KLIA.
    My worry is, that offense ( not having ‘p’ sticker) will cause my P license suspended.
    I checked myEG portal and found that my Kejara points are 02, and my compound amount after discount is RM56.00. so the question is what is my demerit points, is it same as Kejar points which is 2. I heard if the demerit points are 10 for P license, the license will be suspended.
    I want to pay the summon and I’m afraid the suspension, what should i do in this case. I really need help, Thanks in advance

    • Cikgu Yap February 23, 2011 at 4:53 pm - Reply

      Normally, P offenses can cause your license to be suspended.

      • Ibrahim February 25, 2011 at 9:55 am - Reply

        Thanks Cikgu Yap, what about the demerit points, how much demerit points that offense (not having P sticker) carries?. is the kejara points and demerit points same? Thanks in Advance.

        • Cikgu Yap February 27, 2011 at 4:26 am - Reply

          Not carrying Ps will be given 5 Demerit points. If strictly followed, 10 demerit points will suspends your P.

        • Cikgu Yap February 27, 2011 at 4:32 am - Reply

          10 demerit points.

          • Ibrahim February 28, 2011 at 10:02 am

            Thank you so much Cikgu Yap, you are so much of helpful. I really appreciate your efforts and time to offer help to others. by the way, is there a way I can check my demerit points online, whether in JPJ website or MyEG portal?

          • Cikgu Yap March 2, 2011 at 2:48 pm

            For demerit points, check with JPJ web site.

  41. Chan Kwai Weng April 22, 2011 at 11:13 pm - Reply

    What do you think?
    Cikgu Yap,
    My daughter’s “P” Licence has expired in March 2011 and she is in Australia
    pursuing studies. Can I renew her “P” to CDL on her behalf? What do I need to bring to JPJ? Your advice, please.

    • Cikgu Yap April 26, 2011 at 6:28 pm - Reply

      Yes, you can renew your daughter’s P on her behalf at JPJ branch office. Bring along 1 colour photo, original P license. Normally, JPJ will not ask for owner’s MyKad.

  42. AT May 16, 2011 at 4:07 pm - Reply

    Hi Mr Yap.
    Your blog provide me man information. Thanks for it.
    I want to ask can I used back the photo that I have used for my P license since I have extra of it or do I need to take new photo again?
    Thank you.

  43. Sharon Phua September 21, 2011 at 12:08 am - Reply

    Hi cikgu,

    This 3 years i;m staying in canada. Next sunday i will coming back to malaysia. my question is my malaysian lience was expired more then 3 years. How can i renew my lience? I do drive in canada and i have canadian lience. Do i still need to take the exam again? What the procedure to renew? i just stay a month and will going back to canada next month. Thanks

    • Cikgu Yap September 25, 2011 at 11:17 pm - Reply

      Your Malaysian license has expired. You should have no problem converting Canadian license into Malaysian license. See any state JPJ office for the above transaction.

  44. Jade Ko October 16, 2011 at 7:41 pm - Reply

    I have read this column and just want to ask something regards to my P license. I obtained my p license in 2008, and it was expired in the end of december, 2010.

    The problem is, before the expiry date, I had to go back to my country, Korea, for some family issues coming up in the end of december due to ergent calls from my parents.

    After the private matters settled down, I totally forgot about my driving license, but i eventually found out that it has been expired for nearly 10 months while iI was cleaning my room for moving my house. I started to wonder whether I still could renew my P license without re-sitting the any types of exams for driving. I asked few local friends, they said if it is less than a year from the expiry date, should be no problem. But still, feel a little insecure about the statement from my friends.

    I would be appriciated if you can give me the advice and the solution for this matter. :)

    • Cikgu Yap October 20, 2011 at 11:24 am - Reply

      Your P can still be converted to CDL if it is not expired for more than 1 year. If it ha expired longer than the above period, then you’ll have no choice but to sit certain parts of your test all over again. But you have to act fast.

  45. May October 20, 2011 at 4:40 pm - Reply

    Hi, I’m currently studying in Australia. I just lost my driving license and I’m wondering what procedures should I follow to replace my driving license?
    Thank you!

    • Cikgu Yap October 25, 2011 at 7:33 pm - Reply

      Your family or friends back here in Malaysia can apply for a duplicate copy of your driving license.

  46. Kat November 4, 2011 at 8:26 pm - Reply

    I was wondering if I got a P license in Malaysia, can I drive in Melbourne, Australia on this license? Their website says nothing about P plate licenses, but says that overseas licenses can drive for up to 6 months. Any clues?

    • Cikgu Yap November 6, 2011 at 7:48 pm - Reply

      As P licenses are full licenses, you shouldn’t have any problem using it in Australia.

  47. David December 14, 2011 at 8:45 pm - Reply

    Cikgu Yap,

    I’ve read the above about changing from ‘P’ to CDL license.

    My P will be expiring this 20th December 2011. But I will only have time to renew it the earliest at 23rd December 2011.
    Just a concern question, will I get a summon if so happen I was stopped at a random roadblock at 21st December 2011 ?
    Also, if I am able to do it at the 16th December 2011, can I do it ?


  48. Amardil December 31, 2011 at 11:40 am - Reply

    Cikgu Yap, my friend told me that for ‘P’ licence holders, you also need to carry your ‘L’ licence with you when driving. Is this true?


  49. Prashant January 1, 2012 at 2:30 pm - Reply

    Dear Yap,

    I am holding a CDL license for car, can I drive a motorbike by affixing a L sign?

    • Cikgu Yap January 2, 2012 at 7:43 pm - Reply

      No you can’t.

      • Prashant January 4, 2012 at 10:05 pm - Reply

        Thanks for the reply. One more thing now I need not give the written exam right? Just need to attend the preventive maintenance lecture and start learning…

        • Cikgu Yap January 5, 2012 at 8:02 pm - Reply

          Attend 6 hours theory and take out your “L” license.

  50. Sridhar January 5, 2012 at 5:22 pm - Reply

    I am(foreigner, non Malaysian) currently holding P licence and will expire in April 2012, I want to exchange it to Competent drivers licence but the thing is i am currently in Netherlands and I wont be visiting Malaysia during the expiry time of my P licence.
    Can my friend convert the P licence to competent licence by going to JPJ without me being there.
    Is it possible, or a private driving instructor can do this on behalaf of me?

    • Cikgu Yap January 5, 2012 at 8:02 pm - Reply

      Affirmative to all you questions.

      • Sridhar January 6, 2012 at 4:15 pm - Reply

        Do i have to send any letter of authorization as well or is it not required

        • Cikgu Yap January 7, 2012 at 6:22 am - Reply

          No authorisation letter needed.

  51. khoo February 20, 2012 at 5:41 pm - Reply

    hi cikgu yap,
    right now i started with my new business. i need a van driver. do lesen D class able to be a van driver? thanks

    • Cikgu Yap February 22, 2012 at 10:32 am - Reply

      If your van is a personally used one, and not for business purposes, ordinary car license can be used.

  52. Kenneth April 11, 2012 at 9:14 am - Reply

    Hi Cikgu,

    I am a malaysian with a P license living in Singapore. Can I drive a Singapore registered car in Singapore as long as I have the P sticker attached?


    • Cikgu Yap April 11, 2012 at 11:10 pm - Reply

      Yes, you can drive a Singapore registered car as long as you follow all the requirements.

  53. Mohammad November 27, 2012 at 2:46 pm - Reply

    Is it possible to convert “P” to “CDL” on behalf of my friend? My friend is away from Malaysia and asking me to do it on his behalf. I do have his original P licence, photo, IC copy and authorization letter.

    • Cikgu Yap November 30, 2012 at 8:05 pm - Reply

      There should be no problem of you renewing the P license on your friend’s behalf.

  54. Millie Mok April 17, 2014 at 11:46 pm - Reply

    Dear Cikgu Yap.

    Can a P license driver carry passenger?
    L licence deiver deifintely cannot.

  55. Eng Kiat May 8, 2014 at 7:20 pm - Reply


    I want to know a few more details regarding upgrading P license to CDL after my P had expired.

    1. Can I do it at pos office?
    2. What do I need to bring?
    3. The photo is taken on the spot or bring there? If taken there, any attire restriction? If bring own photo, any restriction also?
    4. What is the new rate? The new license is in hard card form right? Not laminated card anymore right?

    • Cikgu Yap May 16, 2014 at 5:46 pm - Reply

      As long as your CDL has not expired for more than 3 year, you can still renew it.

  56. Yeoh August 9, 2014 at 8:54 pm - Reply

    Hello, I am planning to convert my P license to CDL next week.

    Do we still need to prepare a passport size photo for that? And I’ve heard that they’ve now converted to white background instead of blue for the photo. Can I take the photo at JPJ instead of taking my own photo?

    • Cikgu Yap August 12, 2014 at 4:38 pm - Reply

      Your contentions are all correct. Better get your photo done at a photo studio.

  57. HJ September 17, 2014 at 12:30 pm - Reply

    I saw questions regarding whether family member can help the p licence card holder to convert to CDL while card holder is at other country and I know the answer is yes. But here is the problem, those questions were ask few year ago, I am not sure whether there is a change in rule, so can I ask my family member to convert my p licence on my behalf??

    • Cikgu Yap September 20, 2014 at 8:31 am - Reply

      Yes, family members can convert P license on your behalf.

  58. Dianne January 10, 2015 at 4:37 pm - Reply

    I have an Australian car licence and went and got a Malaysian licence. I then decided to get a B2 licence. I have passed this and been issued with a P class, so now hold two separate drivers licences in Malaysia, is this correct?

    • Cikgu Yap January 11, 2015 at 11:43 am - Reply

      Your Malaysian P should have been combined with your B2 license. You should in fact be in possession of 1 license only.

  59. Tiffany January 12, 2015 at 6:15 pm - Reply

    Hi Cikgu Yap,
    Im going to KL now to get a renewal slip for my P license. However what do I have to do? How long does it take? Any advice is much appreciated.


    • Cikgu Yap January 14, 2015 at 8:57 am - Reply

      Bring your P to JPJ or post office for renewal.

  60. Ari January 29, 2015 at 2:45 pm - Reply

    Hi Cikgu Yap,

    Just want to ask, can I upgrade my P license to CDL before its expiry date? Or should I wait for 2 years to get it upgraded?

    • Cikgu Yap January 30, 2015 at 10:00 am - Reply

      Wait 2 years.

  61. azhar February 9, 2015 at 5:19 am - Reply

    Dear sir?

    i am having a P licence which was taken last year september 2014. currently i am driving my father’s car proton persona.. do i need to add my name in insurance and if i buy a new car in my name, does my name will be included in insurance and am i eligible to buy a car in my name. planning to buy proton iriz. my age 25. thanks in advance..

  62. Meri June 6, 2016 at 5:10 pm - Reply

    Hi Mr. Yap

    I’m not Malaysian. I had a P license which expired more than one year ago and since I wasn’t in Malaysia I didn’t converted to C. Now I’ve came back to Malaysia.
    I went to jpj and they told me it is expired but they appealed for me and JPJ agreed to my appeal. But in letter it says I should take part 2 and 3 test.

    I wanted to know:
    1. If there is any way to be exempted from taking test?
    2. After the test can I convert to C? Or should I wait for another 2 years?

    Thank you for your time and consideration

  63. Bree September 11, 2016 at 2:09 am - Reply

    Hi cikgu, I’ve recently passed my driving test and would be qualified for a p license. I was wondering if I can apply for my p license in another state, one that’s different from where I took my test? Eg. I took my test in NS but can I apply for p license in Selangor’s jpj? Also the officer that conducted my test told me I could apply for my license four working days after my test, but since I’ll be leaving the country for a short trip, is it okay to apply for the p license after four working days? If yes, is there a limitation to the valid time period to apply for my p license? If not, can I ask someone to do it for me , as in to apply for the p license? Tqsm for your help.

    • Cikgu Yap February 17, 2017 at 9:02 pm - Reply

      Yes, you can do your P at another states but you have to bring all the necessary documents.

      The P will last for 1 year. After 1 year, you have to retest.

  64. May 19, 2017 at 8:52 pm - Reply

    Hi Cikgu Yap!

    I’m a P license holder, and a friend mentioned to me that I was not supposed to drive with passengers in the car. Is that true?

    Thank you!

    • Cikgu Yap May 20, 2017 at 12:01 am - Reply

      PDL holder can drive with a passenger.

  65. Peter June 9, 2017 at 7:12 pm - Reply

    Hi Cikgu Yap

    I am currently studying overseas and my P license will be expired on Oct this year. However, I am coming home this August. Can I upgrade my license to CDL before going back to school? Will the JPJ allow it?

    • Cikgu Yap June 10, 2017 at 9:47 am - Reply

      You are only allowed to upgrade your Probationary Driving License to Competent Driving License 7 days before the end of your probationary period. There is no other way around it. However, JPJ gives you a grace period of 1 year to change your P to CDL. So you have plenty of time. But don’t drive with an expired license!

      • Peter June 10, 2017 at 3:52 pm - Reply

        Thank you for the reply. One more question. Since there is no way I can upgrade my license when I get home, can I ask my father to do it for me instead and after he upgraded it, he can just mail the license to me afterward? If yes, then what kind of documents should I prepare?

        • Cikgu Yap June 11, 2017 at 9:32 am - Reply

          Yes of course. He can do the renewal for you. You will need to give him your original identity card and P license. The renewal can only be done at JPJ offices and UTC. For more info on P license renewal, please read the following article => http://driving-school.com.my/lesen-memandu/p-ke-cdl/

  66. Terece April 27, 2018 at 8:02 am - Reply

    Dear Cikgu Yap,

    I am working in Japan and I would like to drive in Japan.
    I know i can get international Driving Licence to drive in Japan for 1 year.
    The renewal will be RM150. I know its not much but it would be a hassle for me.
    The Japan Road Transport they want to have my document such as my history driving.
    The problem is i gotten my license before the P system came into place.
    May i know when the P license came in to enforcement. Where can i find the info as i go to JPJ websites i cannot find any information.

    I really hope you can help.
    Thank you in advance.

  67. Anna October 16, 2018 at 10:48 pm - Reply

    Hello, I was expat in Malaysia for 1 year and made the P driving licence. Now I work in Thailand and the PDL expires this year in Dezember. I want to convert it to CDL because I might come back to Malaysia in a view years. I want to go to JPJ in Malaysia in January for the CDL. Do you think I Can get it although I live in Thailand right now?

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